Lovecký pes-obrany?

Neregistrovaný uživatel napsal(a):
Můj pejsa je lovecké plemeno 11 měs.(schválně neuvedu jaké) u nás se ale bohužel nevyužívá jako lovecké v praxi nebo jenom minimálně. Doma má sklony pořád něco kousat-peška,rukáv. Tak jsem se na cvičáku poptala jestli můžeme zkusit obrany.Dělali jsme to poprvé a figurant říkal, že zájem má a že by to šlo.
Zmínila jsem se před chovatelkou a ta mě sprdla, že je to lovecké plemeno a že ho zkazím. Naproti tomu vím, že spousta lidí s ním obrany dělá a na cvičáku byl dlouholetý chovatel tohoto plemene a nic mi neříkal.
Chtěla bych s ním udělat nějaké zkoušky a obrana v nich také je a navíc jsem myslela, že by ho to mohlo bavit.
Můžete mi říct čím bych ho mohla při obranách zkazit? Nebo celkově Váš názor?

Pokud je to výmarákl, tak s ním klidně obrany dělej. Nebo nějaký teriér. Proč, pokud ho to bude bavit. Ale pro některé lovecké plemena je to záliba velmi nevhodná, protože mají ve standartu, že NESMÍ nikdy být agresivní vůči lidem a tudíž ani ve hře by to dělat neměl.

Neregistrovaný uživatel napsal(a):
Pokud je to výmarákl, tak s ním klidně obrany dělej. Nebo nějaký teriér. Proč, pokud ho to bude bavit. Ale pro některé lovecké plemena je to záliba velmi nevhodná, protože mají ve standartu, že NESMÍ nikdy být agresivní vůči lidem a tudíž ani ve hře by to dělat neměl.

Je to RR, ve standardu má - zdrženlivý vůči cizím. Navíc na výstavy nemůžeme a do chovu taky nepůjde, takže by snad mohl ne? (Doufám, že to nepochopíte tak, že by nevadilo, že by byl agresivní.)

Neregistrovaný uživatel napsal(a):
Je to RR, ve standardu má - zdrženlivý vůči cizím. Navíc na výstavy nemůžeme a do chovu taky nepůjde, takže by snad mohl ne? (Doufám, že to nepochopíte tak, že by nevadilo, že by byl agresivní.)

Myslela jsem si to . Já mám taky RR a do toho bych nešla.. V knize jsem četla, že to není vhodné.. Že se na cvičáku o to pokoušeli, psa dlouho dráždili,až se pes rozhodl zaútočit, ale nešel figurantovi po ruce, ale po krku. A ze života: Známý má už dospělého RR a když se opilý kluci proběhli v noci po jeho autě (spali v autě, byli na nějaké akci) a ten známý vylezl se psem z toho auta, tak se ten RR vrhnul na jednoho kluka a nešel po ruce, ale ze zadu po krku. A to má poslušnost, lovecký výcvik a není v žádném případě agresivní.. Takže tak..

Neregistrovaný uživatel napsal(a):
Myslela jsem si to . Já mám taky RR a do toho bych nešla.. V knize jsem četla, že to není vhodné.. Že se na cvičáku o to pokoušeli, psa dlouho dráždili,až se pes rozhodl zaútočit, ale nešel figurantovi po ruce, ale po krku. A ze života: Známý má už dospělého RR a když se opilý kluci proběhli v noci po jeho autě (spali v autě, byli na nějaké akci) a ten známý vylezl se psem z toho auta, tak se ten RR vrhnul na jednoho kluka a nešel po ruce, ale ze zadu po krku. A to má poslušnost, lovecký výcvik a není v žádném případě agresivní.. Takže tak..

Já mám taky RR a do obran bych sní nešla. Jednak u té naší prdelky by to muselo jít skrz agresi (že by někdo napadl mě nebo jí). A osobně si myslím že, RR dost těžko bude kousat do rukávu, jsou na to moc velcí vychcánci.
Ale možná bych to zkusila přes hru (ale vžádném případě nenutit), když se s ní taháme tak taky ví že je to hra.

Neregistrovaný uživatel napsal(a):
Já mám taky RR a do obran bych sní nešla. Jednak u té naší prdelky by to muselo jít skrz agresi (že by někdo napadl mě nebo jí). A osobně si myslím že, RR dost těžko bude kousat do rukávu, jsou na to moc velcí vychcánci.
Ale možná bych to zkusila přes hru (ale vžádném případě nenutit), když se s ní taháme tak taky ví že je to hra.

Přes agresi se přeci obrany dávno necvičí. Jde hlavně o rozvíjení kořistnického pudu a o hru. V žádném případě o agresi.
Nemám sice s RR žádnou zkušenost, ale když můžou dělat obrany LR a novofundlanďáci, tak proč ne RR? Jde přece o hru a zábavu pro psa. Teda pokud ho to baví.

Neregistrovaný uživatel napsal(a):
Přes agresi se přeci obrany dávno necvičí. Jde hlavně o rozvíjení kořistnického pudu a o hru. V žádném případě o agresi.
Nemám sice s RR žádnou zkušenost, ale když můžou dělat obrany LR a novofundlanďáci, tak proč ne RR? Jde přece o hru a zábavu pro psa. Teda pokud ho to baví.

Plně souhlasím. Dnes se cvičí přes kořit a je to hra. Rukáv = kořist a úkol pejska je získat rukáv. Proto lze i např. s Labradory apod. obranu cvičit. Přes agresi by to ve většině případů moc nešlo. Pokud to pejska bude bavit, tak nevidím důvod proč ne.

Neregistrovaný uživatel napsal(a):
Plně souhlasím. Dnes se cvičí přes kořit a je to hra. Rukáv = kořist a úkol pejska je získat rukáv. Proto lze i např. s Labradory apod. obranu cvičit. Přes agresi by to ve většině případů moc nešlo. Pokud to pejska bude bavit, tak nevidím důvod proč ne.

Jsem zadavatelka. Já si myslím, že máme na cvičáku i super figuranta a zatím jsme to zkoušeli jen na kůži a pak bude pešek a pak rukáv.Prý se na rukáv ani někerý pes nedostane. Pan figurant mi všechno pěkně vysvětlil, že ho nesmím nutit a tak a byl fajn. Pesan teda moc zájem neměl, protože jsme tam půl hoďky na něj čekali a to na mýho pesana není navíc když bylo 15 pod nulou, ale i tak si někdy zakousl, ale nebylo to žádný hecování či dráždění a myslím, že by ho to bavilo. To jen, že chovatelka z toho dělá tragédii.

Neregistrovaný uživatel napsal(a):
Jsem zadavatelka. Já si myslím, že máme na cvičáku i super figuranta a zatím jsme to zkoušeli jen na kůži a pak bude pešek a pak rukáv.Prý se na rukáv ani někerý pes nedostane. Pan figurant mi všechno pěkně vysvětlil, že ho nesmím nutit a tak a byl fajn. Pesan teda moc zájem neměl, protože jsme tam půl hoďky na něj čekali a to na mýho pesana není navíc když bylo 15 pod nulou, ale i tak si někdy zakousl, ale nebylo to žádný hecování či dráždění a myslím, že by ho to bavilo. To jen, že chovatelka z toho dělá tragédii.

Hmm a já znám RR interžampióna a do rukávu kouše. Ne že by mu to šlo - ale ať si zakouše, když ho to baví!

Neregistrovaný uživatel napsal(a):
Hmm a já znám RR interžampióna a do rukávu kouše. Ne že by mu to šlo - ale ať si zakouše, když ho to baví!

ten úžasný figurant tě neodmítne, protože by tím odmítal svoje (tvoje) prachy!!!! A do obrany bych nešel. Jestli chceš psa zabavit, udělej s ním lovecké zkoušky, myslím že jich je požehnaně, takže si můžeš vybrat.

Neregistrovaný uživatel napsal(a):
ten úžasný figurant tě neodmítne, protože by tím odmítal svoje (tvoje) prachy!!!! A do obrany bych nešel. Jestli chceš psa zabavit, udělej s ním lovecké zkoušky, myslím že jich je požehnaně, takže si můžeš vybrat.

Jasně, že RR zajímá hra na přetahovanou, jakmile ho ale budeš cvičit obrany, hůř ti půjde loveckej výcvik a ruku na srdce, teď je mu 11měs, ale to až mu budou 3roky, bude drsnější, udržíš ho při obranách?viděla jsem pár RR v akci a figurant byl rád, že to jen zkusili, nekoušou kam mají, nejsou to tupci....

Neregistrovaný uživatel napsal(a):
Jasně, že RR zajímá hra na přetahovanou, jakmile ho ale budeš cvičit obrany, hůř ti půjde loveckej výcvik a ruku na srdce, teď je mu 11měs, ale to až mu budou 3roky, bude drsnější, udržíš ho při obranách?viděla jsem pár RR v akci a figurant byl rád, že to jen zkusili, nekoušou kam mají, nejsou to tupci....

Á, další člověk, který neví o čem mluví, když píše o obranách. Opravdu se musím smát. NEvím, proč by jej neměla udržet při obranách. Cvičí se i poslušnost, nejen, že psa držíte vší silou zapřený o něco, aby vás neodtáhl ... Taky odnačovat py, kteří koušou na rukáv za tupce, když jsou to učení a jedině tenpes, který ne je chytrý, tak to jsem se opradu pobavila. Možná by vám prospělo se jít někdy na obrany mrknout a ne jen jednou ... abyste pochopil o co tam jde. Také jsem viděla pár RR v akci a asi vícekrát jak vy, protože sport. kynologii dělám a kdysi i služební a to co píšete je nesmysl.
Prosím, nestrašte tady lidi tím, že jakmile RR cvičí obrany, tak v 3 letech je nezvladatelný agresivní pes.

Jinak je pravdou, že určitě by bylo lepší cvičit lovecký výcvik to je jasné, je to lovecké plemeno. Ale pokud se majitelka rozhodla inak, tak je to pouze její věc, pokud to pejska bude bavit, tak nevidím problém. Něco jiného je, kdyby jej to nebaviloa ona jej nutila.

Neregistrovaný uživatel napsal(a):
Á, další člověk, který neví o čem mluví, když píše o obranách. Opravdu se musím smát. NEvím, proč by jej neměla udržet při obranách. Cvičí se i poslušnost, nejen, že psa držíte vší silou zapřený o něco, aby vás neodtáhl ... Taky odnačovat py, kteří koušou na rukáv za tupce, když jsou to učení a jedině tenpes, který ne je chytrý, tak to jsem se opradu pobavila. Možná by vám prospělo se jít někdy na obrany mrknout a ne jen jednou ... abyste pochopil o co tam jde. Také jsem viděla pár RR v akci a asi vícekrát jak vy, protože sport. kynologii dělám a kdysi i služební a to co píšete je nesmysl.
Prosím, nestrašte tady lidi tím, že jakmile RR cvičí obrany, tak v 3 letech je nezvladatelný agresivní pes.

Jinak je pravdou, že určitě by bylo lepší cvičit lovecký výcvik to je jasné, je to lovecké plemeno. Ale pokud se majitelka rozhodla inak, tak je to pouze její věc, pokud to pejska bude bavit, tak nevidím problém. Něco jiného je, kdyby jej to nebaviloa ona jej nutila.

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Neregistrovaný uživatel napsal(a):
Jasně, že RR zajímá hra na přetahovanou, jakmile ho ale budeš cvičit obrany, hůř ti půjde loveckej výcvik a ruku na srdce, teď je mu 11měs, ale to až mu budou 3roky, bude drsnější, udržíš ho při obranách?viděla jsem pár RR v akci a figurant byl rád, že to jen zkusili, nekoušou kam mají, nejsou to tupci....

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________